Wipe away those split up tears because we’re going to explain to you that love is not a lie! This week we’ve Autostraddle editor and all around icon
Heather Hogan
discussing the lady 11 year(!!) commitment with her spouse and all of things long term interactions.
But initial! We celebrate getting reunited â after an eventful summertime! â and perform a game of guess the program from fanfic.
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Heather:
We stayed from entire evening, that will be only therefore regarding fictional character both for people. And I think it had been merely, it’s really indicative of our union, i do believe, in which it was just like, this will be awesome. Let’s simply do the next action. This is so fun. Why don’t we simply do the second thing. And that I genuinely believe that’s just been how our very own commitment’s already been for like 11 many years. Each step has just been like, “This component’s fantastic. What’s the next thing we could carry out?” therefore, yeah.
Theme song performs
Drew:
Hi, I Am Drew.
Christina:
And That I’m Christina.
Drew:
And introducing,
Hold off, So Is This a night out together?
Christina:
Hold off, So Is This a Date?
is an Autostraddle podcast centered on the using up concern: wait, is it a romantic date? In which Drew and I also discover all kinds of things about dating. What exactly is online dating, what isn’t dating. And extremely merely have a grand adventure, I’d say.
Drew:
I would personally also claim that it is often a huge adventure up until now and certainly will carry on being. I’m Drew Gregory. I’m a writer for Autostraddle and a filmmaker and a trans lesbian. And I desire new things to enhance the blend. We never can think of anything brand-new. I think those tend to be my identities.
Christina:
Occasionally identification doesn’t alter, despite what TikTok will tell you.
Drew:
I’m Jewish.
Christina:
Yeah. After All likeâ
Drew:
Sort of. I mean, yeah. No, I am not religious, but that’s also element of my personal identity. You can tell from my personal locks.
Christina:
That containsn’t changed though, i guess.
Drew:
That I Am Jewish?
Christina:
Yeah. You’ve been Jewish.
Drew:
No, I’ve been Jewish. Yeah, that failed to take place between your two symptoms. Really, that are you, Christina?
Christina:
I’m Christina. I am also a writer at Autostraddle. A loud homosexual on the net. I am really getting excited about the regarding Princess Diana period, AKA cycle short pants and sweatshirts. This is where i am attempting to end up being. I am in Philadelphia, therefore it is 96 levels now. So we’re slowly getting here. It’s simply like Needs it nowadays. Its my ideal time. I wish to end up being a principal personality inside fall, and it is maybe not going on however.
Drew:
Yeah. Well, what is interesting you are exposing just now is, very in regards to our audience, this has been a week since all of our final event, in fact it is what it always is. But for united states, we actually recorded the most important six periods even as we were locating the sound and establishing this brand-new podcast. We recorded that ahead, the good news is we’re rather recent. Making this like we have now had a whole summertime. So we have not recorded in several months and we also’ve already been doing all kinds of things
Christina:
Uncharted territory. The very last time we taped, we’dn’t came across. We have now fulfilled in-person.
Drew:
That is correct! Yes!
Christina:
Drew was in my personal ding, dang residence, just hanging out.
Drew:
Yes!
Christina:
I might just wake-up and stay like, “Well, look, that’s Drew over there.”
Drew:
Therefore great.
Christina:
It was truly wonderful.
Drew:
You’ve got these types of a beautiful residence.
Christina:
Thank you so much. It really is a gay chaos house and now we like it extremely dearly. Yeah. Therefore we’re only on a trip and it is truly exciting as going on this enterprise with our audience. Do we have whatever else we would like to pontificate in regards to before we become into all of our little video game?
Drew:
I am talking about, I am not sure. I Experienced a big summer time, but I guess situations will come right up since the symptoms arrive, butâ¦
Christina:
Yeah, I really don’t would like you to load every thing right in front.
Drew:
You do not need us to ruin something?
Christina:
Yeah. Load almost everything in the front? My God, exactly what an awful sentence.
Drew:
It seemed somewhat intimate, but I Must Say I had a lot more of a thought of similarâ
Christina:
It did!
Drew:
I thought a lot more though that you were making Home Depot and had been like entering your vehicle, which I learn there is no need, but that has been in addition in which my mind is, that also might-be intimate.
Christina:
In addition only love your thing that’s maintaining me from attending Home Depot is a vehicle and not the person who Im. Like anytime i am at a house Depot, some one has-been like, “Ma’am could you be missing? Will you be secure right here?” And I also’m want, “No, frankly. A great deal lumber around. I am not safe.” Thus I have actually a game for Drew because we like to play video games.
Drew:
I’m listening.
Christina:
And I chose, both in honor of me and the visitor, that this would definitely end up being just a little intro into the arena of fanfic for Drew. Just what You will find accomplished is i have used five shows from Drew’s ideal Characters in Television list, I am also going to study you some tags from AO3’s fanfiction and you are planning need guess which from the shows these labels are talking about. I will begin basic, they will certainly increase specific toward show while we go along.
Drew:
Okay. I Simply have some concernsâ
Christina:
However you are doing.
Drew:
Because I don’t know a lot concerning the fanfic world. Very every tv series has actually words which happen to be involving that show?
Christina:
Yes.
Drew:
That array in specificity, i’d envision?
Christina:
Sure. Yes, they do.
Drew:
And should you decide desired to discover a show that had like, I am not sure, medieval occasions you might hit the medieval tag.
Christina:
We’ll say that I didn’t discover any medieval occasions tags in virtually any of those shows. Love to notice it.
Drew:
Well, that’s not my taste, but I was simply putting one thing out.
Christina:
Yes.
Drew:
Because I guess in my mind, I was like, oh, well, if you are checking out fanfic, you’re looking for implies that have figures you like. But that’s not at all times the outcome. Occasionally you’re just looking for a topic and then you can learn programs from fanfic?
Christina:
You might. That might be a strange option to approach fanfic since the majority folks treat it understanding the ship they will have in your mind. Right after which they state, I want to read possibly another market version of this fanfic. Perhaps I would like some damage convenience. Possibly i’d like a slow burn. Possibly i simply desire some straight up smut. There are plenty of areas which individuals get. After which additionally, there is merely added tags, helping you discover the sort of taste and vibe for the story. And we’re going to go flavor and feeling. Because certainly vessels gives it away and an alternate universe isn’t especially useful per the show, therefore weare going to end up being specific on tv series.
Drew:
Okay, cool. Let us leap involved with it.
Christina:
All right.
Drew:
Let us find out with each other. Yeah.
Christina:
All right. The first one. We will start out with imaginary politics, praise kink, abandonment problems, extremely slow burn.
Drew:
Praise kink, political⦠Fictional politics?
Christina:
Imaginary politics, yes.
Drew:
Really does that mean like politics which happen to be grounded in the real-world, however they are imaginary or entirely imaginary politics?
Christina:
You will findn’t check the fic at issue, but i am assuming this means totally fictional politics.
Drew:
Okay.
Christina:
We could keep working.
Drew:
Yeah, carry on.
Christina:
History punishment, injured comfort, i want soft items to stay and thus do you actually. Entertaining tag. Just was required to read that one.
Drew:
Okay, hold off. Perhaps i will get one minute and think about what my favorite programs tend to be. Okay. Because i am trying to consider the demonstrates have politics included. Oh wait, could it be
The L Term?
Christina:
That one isn’t
The L Word.
No.
Drew:
For the reason that it comes with artificial politics.
Christina:
It can.
Drew:
Because Bette runs for gran. I’m not sure any time you understand that.
Christina:
Oh, i actually do.
Drew:
Okay, let’s see. What otherâ¦
Vida
has actually politics.
Christina:
Vida
provides politics.
Drew:
Would it be
Vida?
Christina:
Unfortuitously,
Vida
does not have any fanfics.
Drew:
Oh, just what?
Christina:
I understand. So individuals, arrive at it.
Drew:
Men and women, can get on that. I would review that fanfic.
Christina:
Folks, arrive at it.
Drew:
Okay. Let us see. The Otherâ¦
Christina:
I can continue.
Drew:
Keep working. Yeah.
Christina:
Cat and mouse. Possessive conduct.
Drew:
Oh, oh,
Killing Eve.
Christina:
There you go.
Drew:
Cat and mouse got me. Oh, praise kink. Yeah. Okay, it really is all pressing. Its all pressing.
Christina:
Everything clicks. Everything ticks. It absolutely was in addition hard because I got to locate people that were certain sufficient to the tv series, but additionally like, this may amaze one understand there’s lots of compliments kink situations available to you.
Drew:
Yeah.
Christina:
Just like quite a bit. Exactly like a ton.
Drew:
I really believe that. I favor our very own society.
Christina:
I understand. One of them isn’t on the set of favorite shows and/or favored TV figures because the your preferred TV shows didn’t have fics, which was unfortunate.
Drew:
Great.
Christina:
But it is a show we have mentioned a lot and I also think you will definately get it.
Drew:
Okay.
Christina:
Eventually. This is certainly gonna be very easy for your needs, personally i think.
Drew:
Oh, God. Stress.
Christina:
Male friendship. Psychologically repressed.
Drew:
Searching?
Christina:
No.
Drew:
Ted Lasso?
Christina:
Yep. Yep.
Drew:
Like, exactly what shows do we see with guys? Okay, let’s try the homosexual one. Nope. Let us take to the right one.
Christina:
Yeah, additional any would definitely end up being “team connecting” and that I was like, that is a simple one. Absolutely a simple one. All right. Let’s see. Canon personality passing, LGBTQ character of shade. Absolutely a tongue twister available. Groups of choice. Mommy daughter commitment.
Drew:
Feel 8?
Christina:
No. in your neighborhood, I would personally say. I’d say for the reason that zone.
Drew:
Pose?
Christina:
Yeah. The following one would end up being canon intercourse work, so â okay, we two a lot more.
Drew:
Okay. I love it.
Christina:
Jealousy. I am afraid of the then event because I don’t trust the authors. A literal label with this fic. Iconic.
Drew:
Okay. What i’m saying is, I don’t consider
Glee
is found on my personal list, but that is what I would initial believe.
Christina:
It is far from
Glee.
I do not imagine
Glee
was actually on many listings.
Drew:
It’s not.
Christina:
But funny point. Ex-lovers to pals back again to lovers trope, family feels, friendship. A lengthy awaited reunion.
Drew:
Ex-lovers to pals back. Is this
The L term?
Christina:
Truly
The L word.
Drew:
Okay. I found myself like, ex-lovers to pals returning to ex⦠Yeah, the ex-lovers.
Christina:
The sad benefit of
The L word
fanfic may be the staggering amount of Bette Tina fanfic can be like, y’all need toâ¦
Drew:
You understand, i do believe we may have a justification to get into this later. That’s just a little tease for our main topic.
Christina:
All right. Anxiety.
Drew:
Okay.
Christina:
Bittersweet ending.
Drew:
Freaks and Geeks?
Christina:
Close â no, not near. Really don’t need certainly to lay for you.
Drew:
I am not sure the reason why. I recently got a jab at anxiety and bittersweet ending. That is only type of my personal thing.
Christina:
Yeah. That’s true. That’s most evident. Romance (extremely unfortunate). That’s in parentheses, ab muscles sad.
Drew:
And it’s really maybe not
The Leftovers.
Christina:
It is not
The Leftovers.
I’m not likely to provide this-
Drew:
Okay. I’m going to be capable of getting this. Very anxiety.
Christina:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Drew:
Bittersweet ending.
Christina:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Romance parenthesis sad.
Drew:
Romance, very unfortunate.
Christina:
Unresolved sexual stress.
Drew:
This is exactly all. This is simply myself. This is exactly like every thing. This can you need to be everything.
Christina:
Yeah, welcome to fanfic, girl.
Drew:
Ooh. I am talking about, wow. What a welcome.
Christina:
Pining is yet another one.
Drew:
How is it in identical family? Okay, hold off, allow me to consider suggests that i enjoy which happen to be homosexual and get an angst. Pining.
Christina:
I am going to say this show isn’t homosexual.
Drew:
Oh.
Christina:
But it’s a reveal that i am aware you love.
Drew:
Ooh.
Christina:
Do you want one that’s going to give it away?
Drew:
I do believe we have to access making use of the podcastâ
Christina:
I really do.
Drew:
However, if it had been just both you and i prefer going out as friends, I would end up like, no, no, no, give me a 1 / 2 hour. But okay, give me the main one.
Christina:
Blasphemy, spiritual traumatization.
Drew:
Fleabag.
Christina:
There its.
Drew:
Here really.
Fleabag
is actually a demonstrate that given that certain insane society around it’s got gone away and it’s in contrast to every one of these frustrating some people’s personalities, i am love, wonderful show.
Christina:
Yeah.
Drew:
Simply an excellent show.
Christina:
Yeah.
Drew:
Just what outstanding, great tv program. That was an enjoyable experience. Thank-you.
Christina:
Anytime.
Drew:
And I’d want to just create a public service⦠No, that is not what it is. Just like a request to people that i’d like some
Vida
fanfic. I shall see clearly. I am not sure which I want that it is between. Possibly it may be, what is it called when it’s like two⦠We performed this. We performed this during the television team. We performed like a cross⦠what is the word because of it? What is it when it is like multiple programs?
Christina:
Yeah. Cross⦠Cross⦠That thing. I understand what you are saying. I cannot consider the word. We can easily bring the guest in. I know they know the word.
Drew:
Okay. We will go into our very own major subject we could make the visitor so her mind doesn’t explode as she actually is wanting to inform us this term. Guest, would you like to present yourself?
Heather:
Yes. Hello, this will be Heather Hogan. Im an Autostraddle author and editor. And often when I tune in to this podcast, I perform along think its great’s a game program when y’all do the video games. It was very difficult for me are peaceful although this ended up being happening.
Christina:
I found myself like, this is gonna be actually fun, but it is additionally likely to be so hard for me personally to work on this and Heather you need to be hushed.
Heather:
Yeah. My favorite yet happens to be, “Who mentioned It: Drew or Sappho?”
Christina:
Thank you.
Heather:
And that I ended up being undoubtedly cheering like I found myself on
The Cost Is Correct.
I happened to be love, “Christina, no it is Drew! Its Drew! It’s Drew! No, it is Sappho!” But you did great. You probably didn’t even require my personal assistance at that online game.
Christina:
Re-listening compared to that one, I found myself love, really, damn i recognize my friends slash I guess the writing of Sappho.
Heather:
You probably did effectively.
Drew:
You smashed it. I also had⦠to be certain the online game worked, I tried it on a number of people. Some people that do understand me much better than you are doing, Christina, and all cannot do so. So I had been really pleased by you.
Christina:
Sounds like I’m successful, in fact it is all those things issues.
Drew:
Heather, reveal exactly what that phrase is actually for all of our fanfiction.
Heather:
It’s just crossover.
Christina:
Its a crossover, yeah!
Drew:
Crossover! Oh, okay. Okay. I was thinking there was some extravagant term for this. But anyways, when someone desires write
Vida
fanfic that is a crossover, its something else that Everyone loves. I would want to see a lot more of it. So our very own major subject recently just isn’t fanfic. It really is long-lasting relationships. Because, Heather, just how long are you currently in your existing connection?
Heather:
I’ve been with my wife for 11 years.
Drew:
Oh, which is way too long.
Christina:
Drew, have you accomplished something consistently for 11 decades? Because I truly haven’t.
Drew:
No, not even gender. I haven’t completed any such thing. Exactly what have We {done|completed|acco
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